CHILDREN PASTOR POSTION

CHILDREN'S PASTOR POSITION IS OPEN

• I could not resist: I love children, and have worked with adults, and teens and young adults, and Charity and I have had several positions as Children's Pastor (preschool to sixth) I worked in Christian Schools. We have worked in the Bus Ministry working with kids is great. My last two position in the ministry was in Christian Education and Children's Ministry, and I can tell you I would have loved to have worked under this job description. Pastors and Elders take notes.

• Who would not want to work with these kids in the photo. Reid, Cole and Ella Williams. Dad and Mom are just outstanding parents and love the Lord, and love their church. I hope they have a Children's Pastor in their church (the church below is not the church they go to.)

The job description below is not from their church, nor am I applying, boy it sound like one I wish I could.

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AND TO THINK SOME CHURCHES TAKE LITTLE EFFORT IN HAVING A GOOD CHILDREN'S MINISTRY. TAKE NOTE PASTORS AND ELDERS AND DEACONS.

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A GOOD JOB DESCIPTION:

TX—Dallas // Children’s Pastor: We’re a creative, contemporary, Bible-centered, elder-led, medium-sized church (200 adults) looking for someone to join a great team as our Children’s Pastor. Casual, collegial and fun working environment. We’re willing to try new things--unencumbered by a lot of sacred cows. We’re basically purpose-driven; more interested in equipping followers than attracting the masses; a more intimate ‘family’ alternative to the many megachurches in town, but the quality of our Sunday morning rivals almost any big church. The Children’s Pastor is responsible for all ministries related to children from birth to sixth grade.

This is the only paid position in children’s ministries. We’re looking for someone to shepherd our children, minister to our families and reach out to the children in our neighborhood. This includes the responsibility to recruit, train, direct, and evaluate a corps of volunteers in children’s ministries. Current ministries to children include graded Sunday School, graded Children’s Church, midweek discipleship program, VBS, Kid’s Camp and several special events during the year. However, we’d like to transition to a more contemporary ministry and we’re open to some new ideas. Also includes some general pastoral duties. I want someone who thinks children’s ministry is the most important ministry in the church; committed to worship and serve Jesus wholeheartedly; teachable, flexible and adaptable; team player who works well with others; willing to speak their mind, but then able to ‘follow the leader’; capable leader with a pastor’s heart--particularly for kids; conscientious and self directed.

Salary: $40,000 plus health and dental.

Contact Associate Pastor Broc Jahnke; Fellowship Bible Church Arapaho; 7815 Arapaho Rd, Dallas, TX 75248; 972-852-5555; fax: 972-661-9113;

resumes@fbcarapaho.com for more information.

GOD'S CREATION - ASTRONOMY

THE CELESTSIAL SPHERE

GENESIS 1:14-16

• "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years......"

DEUTERONOMY 4:19

• "And lest you lift up your eyes unto heaven, and when you see the sun, and the moon, and the starts, even all the host of heaven, should be driven to worship them, and serve the, which the LORD your God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven."

In the field of astronomy, the sky is also called the celestial sphere. This is an imaginary dome where the sun, stars, planets, and the moon are seen to be travelling. The celestial sphere is divided into regions called constellations.

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THE SKY: GOD'S CREATION, OUTSIDE OUR HOME 2008

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The sky is the part of the atmosphere or of outer space visible from the surface of any astronomical object. It is difficult to define precisely for several reasons. During daylight the sky of Earth has the appearance of a deep blue surface, as the result of the air's scattering of sunlight.[1][2][3][4] The sky is sometimes defined as the denser gaseous zone of a planet's atmosphere. At night the sky has the appearance of a black surface or region scattered with stars.

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The light from the sky is a result of the scattering of sunlight, which results in a light blue color perceived by the human eye. On a sunny day Rayleigh Scattering gives the sky a blue gradient — dark in the zenith, light near the horizon. Light that comes in from overhead encounters an air mass 1/38th of the mass that of a sunbeam coming along a horizon paths. So, fewer particles scatter the zenith sunbeam, and, therefore the light remains a darker blue.[5]

The sky can turn a multitude of colors such as red, orange and yellow (especially near sunset or sunrise) and black at night. Scattering effects also partially polarize light from the sky.

Sky luminance distribution models have been recommended by the International Commission on Illumination (CIE) for the design of daylighting schemes. Recent developments relate to “all sky models” for modelling sky luminance under weather conditions ranging from clear sky to overcast.[6] (Note THE SKY and click to resources for this article)

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Photo are from our backyard June 18th 2008

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The New Analytical Bible and Dictionary - 1973 - John A Dickson Publishing Co. Led to the verses I used. The Dickson Bible I have used since the days in Seminary.

OLD BOOKS AND BIBLES AND STUDY

PAUL SAID, "Bring me my books!"

The photo are some of my oldest books and they are as listed:

1. Scripture Natural History - J.G. Woods's Bible Animals 1877 Gift By Majorie Keaton


2. The Life and Epistles of St Paul - W.J. Conybeare, J.S. Howson 1870 Gift Allen Barnhart


3. Dictionary of Religious and Denominations - Hannah Adams 1817


4. The Story of the Bible - Charles Foster 1877


5. The Reference Passage Bible New Testament - I.N. Jones 1915


6. Past, Present, and Future - James E. White - 1909


7. The New Indexed Bible - John Dickson - 1949


8. SERMONS BY CHARLES H. SPURGEON – THIRD SERIES - 1859 (orginial)

SOME OF THE BIBLES I HAVE WHICH I USE REGULAR

• The New Analytical Bible - Dickson Bible, (used in Seminary, 1966, 1972


• Thompson Chain Bible -My Dad's Bible when he lived in Ashboro, N.C. , 1930's


• The MacArthur Study Bible - The latest Bible in my library - 2007 Gift by my Kids.


• The Hebrew - Greek Key Study Bible - Spiros Zodhiates - 1988
  

BIBLES I USED IN STUDY FOR SERMONS AND BIBLE AND THEOLOGY STUDIES

• The New Testament Study Bible - The Complete Biblical Library - Study Bible, Greek-English Dictionary, Hebrew - English Dictionary- Interlinear, Textual Apparatus, verse by verse commentary, various versions, and translations of Greek Words - used since 1986


• Greek by Gresham Machen - 16 volumes


• 26 Translations of the Bible 1983 - two volumes


• The Reference Passage Bible NT with OT references


• YES, I HAVE THE HOLY BIBLE KING JAMES VERSION 1611 EDITION (1990)


• The NT in four versions - KJ, RS, Phillips, and NEB one volume


• THE CHRONOLOGICAL BIBLE - Edited by Edward Reese, 1978 Prof. Hyles Anderson

SPURGEON SAID, AND I TOTALLY AGREE:

• "I believe that there is no mistake whatever in the original Holy Scriptures from beginning to end. There may be, and there are, mistakes of translation; for translators are not inspired; but even the historical facts are correct."

THE STUDY OF THESE BIBLES TO PREACH AND TEACH.

• There are some fundamentalist who say, "We use and read and study only from the KJV bible." To them I say, great. They must have special abilities from the Lord to be able to do that. Praise the Lord for those folks. These men will say, "The message today is totally from the Holy Spirit." Again that is wonderful.

• In my forty-five years of teaching and preaching, and some five thousands times doing just that, I have being afraid to speak for God from the Word without studying. The Holy Spirit leads, directs, confirms, empowers, but doesn't give me revelation, maybe inspiration.

• Like my Dad, after forty years of preaching, and study, he could preach without notes and from his stored up knowledge, could preach or teach on the spot.

• Cecil Nunnenkamp, a member of our church in FBC, Altoona, Kansas, said, "Pastor Charles has enough stored up study that he could go without study for several months."

• When you preach from the text, verse by verse, and you want to learn what that text is saying. If you want to stay fresh week after week, you will study.

• If you want to talk about what you believe and think about the Bible, it really don't take a lot of study. But if you desire to know what God is staying, you will need to study.

I personally don't believe its spiritual to say, "I just read the KJV and preach as the Holy Spirit leads." "The Lord spoke to be last night (Saturday) and gave me this sermon." I have heard that all my life, and I believed them as a child. But when I became a man, and a preacher, I realized that was childish

READ THE BIBLE, STUDY THE BIBLE, ITS OKAY TO STUDY OTHERS WHO BELIEVE THE BIBLE IS THE WORD OF GOD.

HOW MANY BOOKS ARE TOO MANY

HOW MANY BOOKS ARE TOO MANY?

THE RAINBOW AND CLOUDS THE CREATION OF GOD

PHOTO I TOOK THIS MORNING OUTSIDE OUR HOUSE 2008

A beautiful are exhibiting the colors of the specurum, formed opposite the sun by the reflection and reflection of the sun's rays on rain drops or mist. In Genesis, God tells Noah that the rainbow is the symbol of the covenant between God, Noah, and every living creature. (Genesis 9:12-17, Revelation 4:3)

THE PILLAR OF CLOUD:

• A miraculous cloud in the form of a pillar, the symbol of the Lord's presence. It preceded the Israelities in the wilderness to guide them by day. It was the means by which God revealed his presence to Israel during the marching of the Exodus (Numbers 12:5)

When I saw this cloud this morning in our backyard, I looked up and thought, "We will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, could this be the morning?

FINDING FRIENDS FROM TEENAGE YEARS

AL and BARB MYERS

• Start in the back row left to right: Ed Bookhiemer (Jen’s Husband), Aric Lepre (Grandson, Amy’s son), Rob Lepre (Amy’s Husband), Jennifer Bookhiemer (Daughter, Ed’s wife), myself
• Middle row left to right: Barbara Myers (Wife), Matt Bookhiemer (Ed & Jen’s son), Joseph Myers (Grandson, Greg’s son), Lauren Myers (Greg’s Wife), Connor Lepre (Grandson, Amy’s son), Amy Lepre (Daughter, Twin Greg)
• Front three: Gregory Myers (Son, Twin Amy), Sara Myers (Granddaughter, Greg’s Daughter, Twin Katie), Katie Myers (Granddaughter, Greg's Daughter, Twin Sara)

Amazing Grace How Sweet Our Lord and Saviour Has Been To Us

You hear often in sports: In golf: "The shot of the day." In basketball you hear: "The player of the game." Baseball: "The play of the game."

• Well for me "The greatest joy of the year:" (or in many years) Al and Barbara Myers
  

One family that I have tried over the years to locate has been Al and Barb Myers. And they were able to find me on the World Wide Web.

When my Dad died in February 1966, and after I graduated from high school, Mom was asked to work in Danville, for Bob Barber, Jr. in the Baptist Tabernacle. And in August 1966 I went to Arlington Texas, to attend Bible Baptist Seminary. From that point in time I lost contact with Al and Barb.

Over the years I have often thought of those wonderful days in Roanoke. Where are all our friends that we had become so close with? We did go back several times to preach for Gene Arnold, pastor of Fellowship Baptist Church in Roanoke. Becky Pickeral (Adams) and Jeannie Woods, who went to that church, came to Seminary.

We went back to Roanoke for our 30th High School reunion. Elaine Clay, Dolly Copper, and Wayne Sanders and others were there. We went to the church that dad had pastored, and talked to some of the old members. (This is a story we will need to address later)

But we had not seen Al and Barb. We had lost contact with them by 1967.

We had such a great time in Roanoke. I loved playing football and sports, but most of all I loved being the teacher of the teenagers in our church. I still say after all these years, some of the best memories I have are those days in Roanoke.

Al (Algie in the 60's) lived near us, and he and my brother Donald became best friends, and it seemed that Al was at our house a lot. Where the family went, Al was like a second brother, it seemed he was always going with us. Then he started coming to our youth group, and then when I would go to preach in a church Al and Don would go with me. We had such a great time together, studying the Bible, going to meetings, and going to camp, and preaching. I wish I had a picture of us three together in one of dad's car traveling to North Carolina. I do have a picture of the youth group at camp and a youth outing. (This is a story in itself) Barbara was a good friend with Sandra Richardson (who was my girlfriend for three years). They went to high school together. Al and Barbara were married in 1967, and my sister Ellen was sad about that.

SO NOW IT'S JUNE 2008

I get an e mail from Al Myers. Could it be my good buddy of my teenager years? And to my surprise it was. I discovered that Barbara had found GROW BY LEARNING.COM and had signed in on our guest book.

• Hello Oh my gosh, I can't believe we found you. I was searching and found your website. This is Barbara Eakin Myers, married Algie Myers in 1967-we have often wondered where you were. We heard Whisnant's singing on XM radio and contacted them, but they aren't the same family. We have 3 children and 6 Grands. Our oldest are twins, Greg & Amy who are 38 and Jennifer is 33. They are married and live close to us. We are involved in First Baptist Church and Al retired in January from his Civil Service job. Let us hear from you. Al & Barbara Myers (I put in the bold letters)

Now is this not just wonderful? And when Al and Barbara sent the photo of their family, I was just amazed! Isn't that a wonderful family? Isn't God great? What a wonderful shock I received in learning about Al and Barbara. And praise the Lord for their faithfulness in Christ.

Photo used by permission by Al and Barb

IS SEMINARY NECESSARY FOR PASTORAL MINISTRY

SHOULD THOSE WHO DESIRE FOR A LIFE TIME OCCUPATION OF PASTORAL MINISTRY BE TRAINED IN A BIBLE COLLEGE OR SEMINARY?

Part Three

HOW DID I KNOW THAT THE LORD REALLY WANTED ME TO PURSUE A LIFE’S WORK IN PASTORAL MINISTRY?

BACKGROUND HISTORY

If you grew up an independent fundamental Baptist, you knew about every sermon you heard was going to encourage you to pursue a job as a missionary, a preacher, or evangelist, or youth pastor, or some ministry in a local church.

Almost every revival you attended, every World Baptist Fellowship meeting you attended in Virginia, or North Carolina, the preachers were preaching to you to become a preacher, evangelist, or some kind of ministry in the local church, and then go to Bible Baptist Seminary in Arlington, Texas.

And my dad went to a WBF meeting every month when I was a kid and took the family, and many times he was the last speaker of the meeting. In those days, WBF meetings went three days and nights. Goodness. And I heard a lot of preaching to make ministry my life’s work.

I was really pumped and primed for pastoral ministry from the earliest days of my life. From the third grade, by brother Don and I were playing church. He would be Billy Graham one day and I was J. Frank Norris the next day. We went next door to the church and had church on Monday and Tuesday.

By the time I was fifteen I was involved in ministry, and my dad asked me to teach the young people. Twenty-seven months I was the youth pastor of Roanoke Baptist Temple and then I graduated from Jefferson High School in Roanoke, Virginia in May of 1966. My training in preaching and doing ministry as a youth pastor was self-taught and from watching dad. What I learned in those days was used in our ministry even until now. Myself and my younger brother Donald, and our school days side kick and friend Algie (Al) Myers hit the road preaching at youth rallies in Virginia and North Caroline

So to have this idea of preaching was normal for me. From the eighth grade in middle school, I knew in my spirit I wanted to preach. And my dad was ready to let me work in the church.

Then I attended Baptist Bible Seminary in Arlington Texas. WHY? I believed that was the direction that I should go for proper training to learn to preach and pastor a church.

SEMINARY TRAINING WAS TO BE FOR TRAINING YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN FOR MINISTRY.

The professors in Seminary were preachers and pastors, and they were pastors of good churches. I really enjoyed those churches. I really wanted to know how they were able to pastor those churches. I had the desire to learn and know and apply what I could learn about ministry. After all, there were many men who had started churches and had done well.

These pastors and professors were themselves fundamentalist trained. Maybe it was because I was a young seasoned preacher before I attended Seminary that I was not so yielding to training by another. I did have an attitude in Seminary. I had no problem in the class room; I wanted to learn. But I also wanted to do ministry. Having a Mentor in Seminary? Outside the class room, we didn’t communicate with the preachers or teachers. All this was back in 1966, I am sure today that all has changed.

While I did receive some good WBF preaching training, and WBF pastoral training, somewhere along the way, those things I learned didn’t help. As pastor what I drew on was previous training prior to attending Bible Baptist Seminary.

Now the J.F. Norris camp knew how to get a crowd of people together. There were some big churches and the pastors had attended the Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. Akron Baptist, Canton Baptist, Dayton Baptist, Massillon Baptist, to name just a few who had large churches. So to pastor a large church they knew how to do that. Some where along the line, I didn’t get the know how of how to do that. Well, maybe a little, knocking on doors, soul winning and promotions and, of course, the bus ministry.

• SEMINARY TRAINING FOR ME, DIDN’T GIVE ME THE TRAINING TO PASTOR. I know THAT IS A BOLD STATEMENT, BUT THE ABILITY TO PASTOR ANOTHER ESTABLISHED CHURCH JUST WAS NOT IN THE TRAINING . SEMINARY TRAINING DIDN’T HELP ME WITH THE PRACTICAL DAILY WORK OF MINISTRY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN I GRADUATED FROM SEMINARY I DIDN’T KNOW HOW TO OUTLINE A SERMON. THAT IS THE WBF WAY. (And yet the pastors and professors knew themselves how to do ministry and preach and pastor a church). MENTORING MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE PROBLEM. This was 1966-1970.

I REALLY BELIEVED THE ONLY FUNDAMENTALIST PREACHERS were Baptist. To think I could learn from another group of preachers and professors that were not Baptist would be a sin. I HAD NEVER HEARD OF REFORMERS, OR EVEN EVANGELICALS.

Those top ten churches in America in 1968 were Baptist Fundamentalist. Why wouldn’t you want to have a church like them? So I wrote those top hundred churches and asked them “HOW DO YOU PASTOR A CHURCH AND HOW DO YOU GET A CROWD?” I have written a post on that. I have addressed this history in previous posts.

FOOTNOTE:

• The top photo is the entrance of Arlington Baptist College, and Bible Baptist Seminary
• The second and third photo Cederville University