IS SEMINARY NECESSARY FOR PASTORAL MINISTRY

SHOULD THOSE WHO DESIRE FOR A LIFE TIME OCCUPATION OF PASTORAL MINISTRY BE TRAINED IN A BIBLE COLLEGE OR SEMINARY?

Part Three

HOW DID I KNOW THAT THE LORD REALLY WANTED ME TO PURSUE A LIFE’S WORK IN PASTORAL MINISTRY?

BACKGROUND HISTORY

If you grew up an independent fundamental Baptist, you knew about every sermon you heard was going to encourage you to pursue a job as a missionary, a preacher, or evangelist, or youth pastor, or some ministry in a local church.

Almost every revival you attended, every World Baptist Fellowship meeting you attended in Virginia, or North Carolina, the preachers were preaching to you to become a preacher, evangelist, or some kind of ministry in the local church, and then go to Bible Baptist Seminary in Arlington, Texas.

And my dad went to a WBF meeting every month when I was a kid and took the family, and many times he was the last speaker of the meeting. In those days, WBF meetings went three days and nights. Goodness. And I heard a lot of preaching to make ministry my life’s work.

I was really pumped and primed for pastoral ministry from the earliest days of my life. From the third grade, by brother Don and I were playing church. He would be Billy Graham one day and I was J. Frank Norris the next day. We went next door to the church and had church on Monday and Tuesday.

By the time I was fifteen I was involved in ministry, and my dad asked me to teach the young people. Twenty-seven months I was the youth pastor of Roanoke Baptist Temple and then I graduated from Jefferson High School in Roanoke, Virginia in May of 1966. My training in preaching and doing ministry as a youth pastor was self-taught and from watching dad. What I learned in those days was used in our ministry even until now. Myself and my younger brother Donald, and our school days side kick and friend Algie (Al) Myers hit the road preaching at youth rallies in Virginia and North Caroline

So to have this idea of preaching was normal for me. From the eighth grade in middle school, I knew in my spirit I wanted to preach. And my dad was ready to let me work in the church.

Then I attended Baptist Bible Seminary in Arlington Texas. WHY? I believed that was the direction that I should go for proper training to learn to preach and pastor a church.

SEMINARY TRAINING WAS TO BE FOR TRAINING YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN FOR MINISTRY.

The professors in Seminary were preachers and pastors, and they were pastors of good churches. I really enjoyed those churches. I really wanted to know how they were able to pastor those churches. I had the desire to learn and know and apply what I could learn about ministry. After all, there were many men who had started churches and had done well.

These pastors and professors were themselves fundamentalist trained. Maybe it was because I was a young seasoned preacher before I attended Seminary that I was not so yielding to training by another. I did have an attitude in Seminary. I had no problem in the class room; I wanted to learn. But I also wanted to do ministry. Having a Mentor in Seminary? Outside the class room, we didn’t communicate with the preachers or teachers. All this was back in 1966, I am sure today that all has changed.

While I did receive some good WBF preaching training, and WBF pastoral training, somewhere along the way, those things I learned didn’t help. As pastor what I drew on was previous training prior to attending Bible Baptist Seminary.

Now the J.F. Norris camp knew how to get a crowd of people together. There were some big churches and the pastors had attended the Seminary in Fort Worth, Texas. Akron Baptist, Canton Baptist, Dayton Baptist, Massillon Baptist, to name just a few who had large churches. So to pastor a large church they knew how to do that. Some where along the line, I didn’t get the know how of how to do that. Well, maybe a little, knocking on doors, soul winning and promotions and, of course, the bus ministry.

• SEMINARY TRAINING FOR ME, DIDN’T GIVE ME THE TRAINING TO PASTOR. I know THAT IS A BOLD STATEMENT, BUT THE ABILITY TO PASTOR ANOTHER ESTABLISHED CHURCH JUST WAS NOT IN THE TRAINING . SEMINARY TRAINING DIDN’T HELP ME WITH THE PRACTICAL DAILY WORK OF MINISTRY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN I GRADUATED FROM SEMINARY I DIDN’T KNOW HOW TO OUTLINE A SERMON. THAT IS THE WBF WAY. (And yet the pastors and professors knew themselves how to do ministry and preach and pastor a church). MENTORING MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE PROBLEM. This was 1966-1970.

I REALLY BELIEVED THE ONLY FUNDAMENTALIST PREACHERS were Baptist. To think I could learn from another group of preachers and professors that were not Baptist would be a sin. I HAD NEVER HEARD OF REFORMERS, OR EVEN EVANGELICALS.

Those top ten churches in America in 1968 were Baptist Fundamentalist. Why wouldn’t you want to have a church like them? So I wrote those top hundred churches and asked them “HOW DO YOU PASTOR A CHURCH AND HOW DO YOU GET A CROWD?” I have written a post on that. I have addressed this history in previous posts.

FOOTNOTE:

• The top photo is the entrance of Arlington Baptist College, and Bible Baptist Seminary
• The second and third photo Cederville University
  

IS SEMINARY TRAINING NECESSARY

SHOULD THOSE WHO DESIRE FOR A LIFE TIME OCCUPATION OF PASTORAL MINISTRY BE TRAINED IN A BIBLE COLLEGE OR SEMINARY?
Part Two

I grew up in an independent Baptist church where my father pastored. He had a ministry to pastors and those who had been knocked out by pastoring churches.

I grew up seeing a pastor train men for ministry. Then my dad passed away, and I went to seminary. I had some good training as a fundamentalist but had little training learning how to be

learning how to be a pastor like my dad.

How one receives that wisdom is the question at hand.

One should never go into the pastorate without first having been trained by a seasoned pastor who knows ministry. Training starts in the local church and then moves to a Seminary or even some good off- campus education training.

Dan Philips over at Biblical Christianity or Pyro addressed a question about “Is Seminary training necessary?”

I want to start with this question:

How does God bring a young man to the point of knowing God would like him to be in pastoral ministry?

My oldest son was going to Pensacola Christian College, for a degree in Accounting. In his first year a fundamentalist preacher came to chapel and preached a sermon on “Pastoral ministry as a life ministry”. My son believed that he was to preach and changed his major to pastoral ministry.

The next three years he took all the subjects for Bible and minored in Greek. Following graduation, he came back to our church where I was the pastor, and I put him to work as a music director and youth pastor. Well, in a little while he began to realize that his calling was not from the Lord, but his emotions. And I encouraged him to find another direction in life. Serve the Lord, for sure, but the call for pastoral ministry is not an emotional call. He today is doing great and he and his wife are active in their local church. The training he received in Pensacola was not training for pastoral ministry. It was excellent Bible education. I don’t know if they have hand-on program for pastoral ministry.

HOW DOES ONE KNOW THAT GOD IS DIRECTING HIM TO GO INTO PASTORAL MINISTRY

My youngest son Kyle, who is twenty-three, said, “Dad, I don’t have a clue what I want to do; and if I go to college, I have no idea what I want to learn to do.”


WHERE DOES THE DIRECTION COME FROM TO GIVE DIRECTION FOR ONE’S LIFE WORK?

That is, HOW DID I KNOW THAT THE LORD REALLY WANTED ME TO PURSUE A LIFE’S WORK IN PASTORAL MINISTRY?

There is no substitute for hands-on apprenticeship: pastor to student.

Having all the knowledge of the Word does not qualify a man for ministry in a local church. But having the knowledge, then wisdom of ministry of a local church is a must.

How one receives that wisdom is the question at hand.

One should never go into the pastorate without first having been trained by a seasoned pastor who knows ministry. Training starts in the local church and then moves to a Seminary or even some good off- campus education training.
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Footnote

• This observation is from by perspective and life experiences. My experiences are not necessary the norm for all pastors, preachers, ministers and Christian workers. And I am speaking from the experience in my youth, as a Independent Fundamental Baptist.



• I am speaking in part from by experience from forty years ago.



• But it does not negate the issue at hand, "SHOULD ONE WHO HAS A DESIRE FOR PASTORING A CHURCH GO TO SEMINARY."