Should we say “Rev. Charles, or Pastor Charles or just Charles

 

Charles 06 2014 bible teachingShould you call your preacher or minister or elder “Pastor?” Or “Reverend”

Reverent means “worthy to be revered, entitled to reverence.”  “a feeling or attitude of deep respect tinged with awe; veneration.”

  • (initial capital letter) (used as a title of respect applied or prefixed to the name of a member of the clergy or a religious order):
  • The Reverend (Rev.) is a style most often used as a prefix to the names of Christian clergy and ministers
  • In the 20th and 21st centuries it has been increasingly common for reverend to be used as a noun and for clergy to be referred to as being either a reverend or the reverend (I talked to the reverend about the wedding service.) or to be addressed as Reverend or, for example, Reverend Smith or the Reverend Smith. This has traditionally been considered grammatically incorrect on the basis that it is equivalent to referring to a judge as being an honorable or an adult man as being a mister.[

 

PASTOR:

  • As a verb:  to serve as the pastor of:  “He pastored the church here for a number of years.”
  • Middle English, from Old French, from Latin pstor, shepherd; see p- in Indo-European roots.]

pas·tor (pstr)

n.

1. A Christian minister or priest having spiritual charge over a congregation or other group.

2. A layperson having spiritual charge over a person or group.

3. A shepherd.

tr.v. pas·tored, pas·tor·ing, pas·tors

To serve or act as pastor of.


[Middle English, from Old French, from Latin pstor, shepherd; see p- in Indo-European roots.]

Dictionary Definition: pastor

pastor

P`ASTOR, n. L. from pasco, pastum, to feed.

1. A shepherd; one that has the care of flocks and herds.

2. A minister of the gospel who has the charge of a church and congregation, whose duty is to watch over the people of his charge, and instruct them in the sacred doctrines of the christian religion.

pastoral

P`ASTORAL, a. L. pastoralis. Pertaining to shepherds; as a pastoral life; pastoral manners.

  • 1. Descriptive of the life of shepherds; as a pastoral poem.
  • 2. Relating to the care of souls, or to the pastor of a church; as pastoral care or duties; a pastoral letter.
  • Piety is the life and soul of pastoral fidelity.
  • P`ASTORAL, n. A poem describing the life and manners of shepherds, or a poem in imitation of the action of a shepherd, and in which the speakers take upon themselves the character of shepherds; an idyl; a bucolic.

P`ASTORATE, n. The office, state or jurisdiction of a spiritual pastor.

A pastor is someone who has spiritual care over a congregation.  The English word occurs only once in the Bible in Eph. 4:11, “And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers.”  The word in Greek is poimen and literally means shepherd.  Poimen occurs 18 times in the New Testament.  For example,

  • Matt. 9:36, “And seeing the multitudes, He felt compassion for them, because they were distressed and downcast like sheep without a shepherd.”
  • Mark 14:27, "And Jesus *said to them, “You will all fall away, because it is written, ‘I will strike down the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered.’
  • Luke 2:8, “And in the same region there were some shepherds staying out in the fields, and keeping watch over their flock by night.
  • John 10:11, “I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down His life for the sheep.”
  • Heb. 13:20, “Now the God of peace, who brought up from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep through the blood of the eternal covenant, even Jesus our Lord.”

Therefore, a pastor is a shepherd of God’s flock who is to instruct, teach, and protect the people under his charge.  Pastors are elders (1 Tim. 5:17), and as such cannot be women as the scriptures declare in Titus 1:5-7 and 1 Tim. 2:12-13.

Here are the reasons why I reject the wearing of religious titles:

1. There is no New Testament authority for the practice.

  • Though there were many gospel preachers in the first century, not one of them accepted and wore a religious title. I cannot read where Paul was ever called "Reverend Paul," Peter was ever called "Archbishop Peter," James was ever called "Pope James," Timothy was ever called "Pastor Timothy," or John was ever referred to as "The Right Reverend, Dr. John." The wearing of religious titles is a practice that arose centuries later. They were never worn with the approval of God by those in the Lord's church. Consequently, I refuse to go beyond the things which God has revealed that we should do in our worship of Him (2 Jn. 9-11; 1 Cor. 4:6; 1 Pet. 4:11; Rev. 22:18-19).

2. Wearing religious titles is expressly condemned.

The Lord Jesus forbade the practice when He said,

  • But be not ye called Rabbi; for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ (Matt. 23:8-10).
  • The wearing of religious titles to elevate one brother above another was soundly condemned by Jesus. The practice is contrary to the spirit of Christianity that "all ye are brethren."
  • Long ago Job said, "Let me not, I pray you, accept any man's person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man. For I know not to give flattering titles; in so doing my maker would soon take me away" (Job 32:21-22).

Charles e Whisnant, Expositional Teacher & Bible Preaching and attention giving to Theological Content June and July 2014

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Education and sound theology.

COMMENTS MADE ABOUT Creation:

Until then you can Google how scientific theory works, It's all over the net. But until then please understand that the Big Bang Model (BBM) and the sound theory that the universe is expanding does not disprove God in any way. It actually reinforces the Creation story, if it is read in the literary sense . It proves that the universe had a beginning as the ancient writer of Genesis (Probably Moses) recorded. Also if you are basing your belief in the literal interpretation of Genesis, that God Created the universe in six solar days, that would become very problematic since He didn't Create the sun until the 4th day, and also since days mean nothing to an infinite being.

Also keep in mind that many theologians and scholars disagree with the literal interpretation of Genesis that fundamentalists have adopted. Even the Church Fathers such as Thomas Aquinas wrote that the creation story, and the first chapters of Genesis shouldn't be discerned in the literal sense. So guess what? No Talking snake either .

 

In the beginning God!  And in the end of this world, God will still be. The age of the world is not as important as knowing God is the Creator of all things.  God is God and My His Word All things are controlled. It is much easier to believe God with one word created the Universe than for Him to take 13 million years to do it. .

Churches Worked In

Local churches I have worked in here: The last churches I worked in.  And note the links too. (Blue)

The photo of the churches are as they were at the time  we were in that church

 Roanoke Baptist Temple

A little history. A timeline. 

  1. Roanoke Baptist Temple in Roanoke VA, where my Dad: Everette Whisnant was the pastor and for 27 months I was the youth teacher until Dad died in February 1965
  2. Fellowship Baptist Church, Roanoke Va. Following my Dad death I went to this church until
  3. Bible Baptist Seminary  in Arlington TX, student from 1966 to 1969
  4. Grace Baptist Church, Fort Worth, I attended and taught the Youth class several times
  5. Southall Baptist Church, Danville, VA. After my first year at Seminary I came back for the summer and worked in this church as a Youth Pastor and Sunday Night Class Teacher
  6. Worth Baptist Church, Fort Worth, TX, I worked in the youth class my second year.
  7. West Handly Baptist Church in Fort Worth, TX as a youth teacher for six months by last year in seminary
  8. Gideon Baptist Church, Fort Worth TX My last year in seminary Charity and I joined Gideon and we help established the Bus Ministry and Charity and I established a Children's Church ministry, we were there for 42 weeks before we moved to
  9. Wooster Ohio.  
FROM ROANOKE BAPTIST TEMPLE WHERE I BEGAN TEACHING THE YOUTH AND PREACHING FOR DAD THEN GOING TO BIBLE BAPTIST SEMINARY IN ARLINGTON TEXAS 1964 TO 1970. 
1970-1971 Youth Director
Eric was born in Wooster 1971
One of the best group of young people.


1971-74 Pastor/Teacher What an experience for sure.
1973-1974 Assco Pastor, Educational Director, Youth Director, 
We had a good group of young people, some great teachers in the Sunday School

We moved to Grapevine TX 
Worked at the First Baptist Church, Haltom City
Educational Director

Mansfield Baptist Temple, Mansfield Ohio
1974-1977  College and Career Teacher
We loved the young men and women in our class.
Pleasant Valley Ranch, Perrysville, Ohio
1975 Camp Director
What an experience, I had never been a camp director
lasted only one season.
1978-79  (Youth Pastor, Children Church Director, Bus Director
Liked the youth. Charity and I established the Children Ministry

We then moved to Crown Point, IN and 
Enrolled in Hyles-Anderson College
and First Baptist Church of Hammond


March 1980 to July 1996 Pastor/Teacher 
We had 16 years of ministry in this church and we loved the people so much. 

From here:
  We moved to Lexington KY in July 1996 unto 2001
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                                            Ashland Ave Baptist Church, Lexington KY

Updated of Chad Project July 2014


From the front entrance looking straight back the tree truck was pushed back

This is the Chad Whisnant Project Update:  There has been come work done, but we want to clear this area a bit more






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From right side looking out toward the entrance

This is looking from the inside toward the right

This is the front entrance to this project

Charles and Charity Whisnant Family July 2014

Eric and Leslie and Abby Whisnant
Chad and Heather and Tray and Trey

Becky
Kyle and Brittney and Briley

The Whisnant Camping and Trail Place

 
The Kyle View 2014
 
The Eric Project View
 
The Upper Trail 2 This is the 2014 project
 
The Trail 2