LET US AS PREACHERS NOT GET CAUGHT UP IN SELF

UNION MILLS BAKERY MAY 29

Tammy, & Kindra, & Sonda, & Charity, & Rich, & Debbie, & Mary, & Brenda really worked hard this weekend, well the last few weeks on high school graduations orders.

LETING DOWN YOUR SLEEVES IS GREAT

Brief Summary of Sunday's Message from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

The video is from this morning at the church, (I did not have the lights on)

THE JOY TO BE ABLE TO LET DOWN YOUR SLEEVES WITHOUT BEING MISUNDERSTOOD.
TAKING A LOOK INTO THE EMOTIONS OF PAUL
I THESSALONIANS 2:13-14
Pastor/Teacher Charles E. Whisnant

PAUL seems very much at home when he is writing to the church at Thessalonica. In his letters to that favored people he unveils his inmost feelings. He is rather apt to do so when he feels himself quite at ease: for Paul is by no means a man shut up within himself, who is never at home to any one. When he is in a drawn-out conflict with an unappreciative people he keeps himself to razor-sharp words and strong arguments; but when he is writing to a loving, attached, affectionate church, he lets them have the explanation of his heart, and he lays exposed before them his secret emotions. I feel as if we were interviewing Paul today as if we were all sitting in a room with him, and Silas, and Timothy, and were hearing their private conversation. We are come to a round-table conference with them, and we are listening to their talk about the ministry which God had committed to them.

Even in these two verses we hear of how these holy preachers loved the gospel, told out the gospel, and saw that gospel take hold of their hearers' hearts.

When you look back over the places of ministry in the pastorate, as my mind brings up those places of service, it’s with joy that I don’t need to be restrained about my conduct in those places. In each place the experience with friends still fill my soul with joy. The experience with the youth, the children, and adults are so good. I love to tell the stories. To be able to the connections we had with friends in Roanoke, Virginia, Bible Baptist Seminary in Arlington Texas, Wooster, Ohio, Minford, Ohio, West Portsmouth, Ohio, Connersville, Indiana, Mansfield, Ohio, Altoona, Kansas, and perhaps in Lexington, Kentucky.

It is with a joyful enthusiasm to be the pastor of a church where one may be able to speak with some transparent, as a pastor, to be able from the beginning to open your heart without fear that you are going to be wounded.. Pastors usually have to be like a man who wears an armor throughout life, who hardly is able to move his plate of steel, unless somebody should wound him in an unguarded place.

There is not place better than have a church were you can feel yourself at home as a brother among brethren, and as safe as a father among his sons and daughters since he is not afraid of being misunderstood.

To be able to let your sleeves down a while is a joy.

Paul was like that here in our text. He was able to feel at home, he was able to freely speak with peace, and with pleasure his thoughts about the folks at Thessalonica. He could from the first day to his last day, just say, “As you know,” and they did know.

AND FOR THIS REASON WE ALSO CONSTANTLY THANK GOD THAT WHEN YOU RECEIVED FROM US THE WORD OF GOD'S MESSAGE YOU ACCEPTED IT NOT AS THE WORD OF MEN:

This Sunday at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church, in Minford Ohio the message from I Thessalonians 2:13

Reality of Church Ministry Comes to Life

The reality of church ministry comes to life.

This past Wednesday night in our 6 p.m. membership meeting at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church was just for that purpose. Getting members to view their thinking about their ministry in the church. Generally as Pastor/Leader/Elder, I lay out my opinions and idea and what I think. But what I felt a really neat idea, "What Are You Thinking?" So I started with Jimmy and Lois and move to Stephanie, then Linda, skip Bill and went to Bob then to John and Peggy, (well I skippe Peggy) then to Frankie and Danny, and so forth, then came back to Bill, then to Charity and Dorothy, then to Bill and Mary, etc.

Really its good to listen to what members are thinking about the ministry that they are involved in. Its good to hear concerns and ideas and thoughts. Too often I believe members may think they are not heard.

The meeting was very good and produced some good thoughts.

Then 7 p.m. came, and we were just about half way through the process, and before you knew it, the time was 8 p.m. So what about my lesson for tonight? I want have to study as hard the next week. Sometimes its good to listen and not talk. Who said that?

Pastors have this fault of sugar coating problems and concerns. They often speak of the good points and hid the problems the church has. This is a fault that hurts the progress of the church.

In order to get ahead of what was before we must deal with the past. We have a future if we are honest about the events of the past.

Churches that do not deal honestly with themselves and do not stop of correct and adjust, will fall into the same pattern all over again.

Therefore in this brief post, I am saying, ROJBC and its leadership and members are making progess in their purpose to make our place a place that will bring honor to the Lord.

Why Pastor Give Their Charge?

Why Pastor's Give The Charge ? from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

The Outline of this message will be over on MY CHURCH

THREE REASONS WHY WE AS SPIRITUAL PASTORS/TEACHERS GIVE OUR CHARGE TO OUR FLOCK
I Thessalonians 2:12
Pastor/Teacher Charles E. Whisnant
Rivers of Joy Baptist Church – May 24, 2009

The Mom wants to provide the need of the moment, and the Dad wants to produce the product at the end. That’s balance. Charity the need, Charles the charge.

• Verse 12 "That you would walk creditably of God, who has called<2564> you unto His kingdom and glory."
  
  
  
  

Why Pastor's Give the Charge Pt 2 from Charles E. Whisnant on Vimeo.

SPORTS COLLECTIONS AND THE GOSPEL

The view of our house

The yard that I cut is all the green.

For six years I push a small mower.

But really loved it.

SOMETIMES YOU WONDER WHY PEOPLE WHOM HEAR YOU PREACH OR TEACH, SEEM TO JUST BRUSH THE MESSAGE OFF. WELL THERE IS A REASON FOR THAT..................

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  Now, when we preach the gospel, unless you have spiritual life, you cannot feed upon it; and if you were to come to the communion table, unless you were truly alive unto God, you might eat the bread, and drink the wine, but with real spiritual food, the body of Christ, and the blood of Christ, you could have nothing to do. We do not give food to people in order to make them live. That would be a useless experiment; but, because they are alive, they take food in order to sustain and nourish the life which is already in them. Always recollect, dear friends, that the best spiritual food in the world is useless to those who are spiritually dead; and one very essential part of the gospel is that truth which our Savior so plainly taught, "Ye must be born again." All attempts at feeding the soul are of no use until the new birth has been experienced; even that precious, priceless bread of life cannot be assimilated unless the soul has been quickened by the Spirit of God.

WHILE I DO LIKE MY SPORTS COLLECTION, ITS JUST A COLLECTION

The Dale Earnhardt Sr. Collection

Jeff Gordon collection pre 2000

The corner of my collection room

LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic 2

LeBron's buzzer-beater lifts Cavaliers over Magic

With the Cavaliers' hopes for another trip to the NBA Finals fading fast, LeBron James rose up for an absolutely critical 3-pointer as the final second ticked off the clock Friday night.

He took the last shot this time. A twisting, off-balance, miracle shot. A 3-pointer for the last of his 35 points that he released with less than one second on the clock and rattled through the rim to give the Cavs a 96-95 victory in Game 2, evening the series at 1-1.

What a game. I get a call from Charity from Union Mills to pick her up, its 10 p.m. Cavaliers had a 23 point lead, only to lose it.

May I order please....

How To Talk Salvation To Children

How Do You Talk To Your Children About Salvation from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

How Should We Talk To Our Children About Salvation Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

The Outline Forthcoming.

EVOLUTION IS STILL IN THE NEWS IN 2009

CREATION IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE WAY THIS EARTH BECAME INTO BEING
Early Skeleton Sheds Light on Evolution

from AOL May 20 2009


ALSO NOTE THIS WEB SITE FOR A biblical POINT OF VIEW



Mayor Michael Bloomberg, among the speakers at the news conference, called it an "astonishing breakthrough."

The story of the fossil find will be shown on History, which is owned by A&E Television Networks. A book also will be published.
Hurum saw nothing wrong with the heavy publicity which preceded the research's publication Tuesday in the scientific journal PLOS (Public Library of Science) One.
"That's part of getting science out to the public, to get attention. I don't think that's so wrong," Hurum said.




Paleontologists found a rare prehistoric pregnant turtle in a remote area of southern Utah May 9. The fossil is just the second ever found to still have a clutch of eggs inside. Here, a technician prepares to run the 75-million-year-old fossil through a scanner.


Because the skeleton is so remarkably complete, scientists believe it will provide a window into primate evolution. The animal was a juvenile female that scientists believe died at about 9 or 10 months.
"She tells so many stories. We have just started the research on this fabulous specimen," said Jorn Hurum, of the University of Oslo Natural History Museum, one of the scientists reporting the find.
The creature is nicknamed Ida after Hurum's 6-year-old daughter.
The unveiling, at New York's Museum of Natural History, was promoted by a press release for the cable TV show History, which called it a "revolutionary scientific find that will change everything."

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I AM IN A SERIES ON GENESIS AND EVOLUTION ON WEDNESDAY NIGHTS.

In the last month at Rivers of Joy Baptist Church

speaking on Genesis Chapter One and Two

Who Created the Earth

Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a Concept!--Theological

Why All the Best Preachers Are--What a Concept!--Theological :

• "The bones and marrow of the sermon are composed of theology. Yet theological preaching is rare. Listeners fear that too much theology will make the sermon impractical. Many preachers shy away from theological content. Aware of the small window of opportunity given to capture the interest of the audience, preachers are tempted to rush to application. The result is a sermon that begins with the need of the audience, touches lightly on the biblical text, and then moves to concrete implication. In the process, the sermon skips the important step of identifying and stating theological principles upon which the practical application is based. Haddon Robinson has wryly observed: 'More heresy is preached in application than in Bible exegesis.'"

From my personal experience, not many preachers preach theological in my circle of preachers. So I have changeded my circle of preachers. While I love all my preachers friends, and they all love the Lord, many of them just like to preach and leave out the theology.

All the preachers I know from this camp, would say they believe they are preaching the Word of God. They just like to leave out the theological aspect of it in their preaching. Some started out wanting to preach theological and then got caught up in wanting to get more people saved and have a bigger church, so they cut out the theological teaching, and went with the pop - cultural - easy listening - twenty minute sermon. And they go their bigger church attendance.

I am so glad over the last years to get to know many preachers who are totally committed to preaching from a theological concept.

• I have often heard people say, "Charles is a teacher, not a preacher."

The truth is all preaching is teaching what one believes about what the Bible is teaching.

1. THE KEY IS LEARNING WHAT THE BIBLE IS TEACHING.

I am in my 45 years of learning what the Bible is saying.

And almost every day, I am humbled by what I just learned today.

Maybe we should try to preach or teach so it doesn't sound so theological!

Charles Spurgeon once observed

• that the young preacher is primarily concerned with matters of style while those with more experience tend to focus their attention on content. In effect, the younger preacher asks, "How shall I say it?" while the older preacher thinks, "What shall I say?" The theological preacher must ask both questions. It is by giving careful attention to the theology of the text and the need of the audience that the preacher learns what must be said about it and how to say it.

Pastoral Leadership Paul's Method Part One and Two

Pastoral Leadership In Three Phases pt 1 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

Pastoral Leadership In Three Ways Pt 2 from charles e. whisnan t on Vimeo.

THREE ADVERBS AND THREE ADJECTIVES OF SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP
I THESSALONIANS 2:11
PASTOR/TEACHER CHARLES E. WHISNANT
MAY 17, 2009

PAUL IS TELLING US IN THIS SECTION THAT WE SHOULD MODEL AND TEACH AND CHARGE THOSE WHO ARE UNDER OUR SPIRIUTAL LEADERRSHIP

HOW ARE WE ABLE TO LIVE WITH STRENGTH, COURAGE, LITTLE FLINCHING FROM A MEASURABLE RISK AND THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IN LIFE?

1 Be sure of the presence of the Holy Spirit. Practice the presence of the Spirit
2 Understanding that as a Christian you have a just cause to live as Christ
3 You understand the reality of the unfailing sovereignty of God

THOSE OF US WHO ARE IN SPIRITUAL LEADERSHIP NEED TO BE:

You are witnesses, and so is God, how devoutly and uprightly and blamelessly we behaved toward you believers; just as you know how we were exhorting and encouraging and imploring each one of you as a father would his own children, so that you would walk in a manner worthy of the God who calls you into His own kingdom and glory. (2:10–12

1A MODELING (PATTERN) STEP ONE THE LIFE OF A SPIRITUAL FATHER, LEADER
(Deut 4:9, prov. 13:24, eph 6:4, col. 3:21, Hebrews 12:9

1B HOLY:

1. My life before God.
2. My duty before God was conformed to God’s character.
3. This is the fabric of the believer’s testimony as God sees it, not man.
4. God’s wants 100% of our lives.
5. No one sees your devotional life except God.
   
   

2B JUST: RIGHTEOUSLY.

1. This is the man-directive.
   
2. This is what you see.
   
3. This has to do with your integrity.
   
4. The fabric of your character.
   
5. Established reputation.
   
6. A good testimony.
   
7. People know your number.
   
8. The testimony in the church not in the world.
   
9. People trust you.
   
10. People believe what you say.
    
11. When you get up and give a testimony, people will listen to what you say.
    
    

3B UNBLAMEABLY:

1. Behaving ourselves as Christians justly.
2. We are not like the world models.
3. We don’t embarrass Christ in public
4. We’re a new breed.
5. We’re a different crop
6. We have a new nature
7. We’re indwelt by the Holy Spirit
   
8. We have a Bible
9. Molds our life. Our attitude
10. Our philosophy of life. Our out-look on life
    
11. Our attitude toward life
12. If our life is UGLY, people will say “they must have an ugly book.”
    
    

2A TEACHING (PRECEPTS) is necessary as a spiritual father, leader.

THREE PHASES OF THE MINISTER’S PREACHING

“just as you know how we were exhorting and encouraging and imploring each one of you as a father would his own children,” 1 THESSALONIANS 2:11

1B EXHORTING: to encourage, to raise somebody's spirits. –

• from parakaleo, literally “to call alongside; and is related to the noun parakletos, “one who comes alongside; which is one of the titles for the Holy Spirit.
  
• Exhortation leads one to do a thing willingly; consolation, to do it joyfully. "exhorted," the Greek includes the additional idea of comforting and advocating one's cause: "encouragingly exhorted."
  

2B COMFORTED motivating

• Encouraging (paramutheomai), meaning to encourage in the sense of comfort and consolation, is so critical in assisting toward spiritual growth because of the many obstacles and failures Christians can experience.
• A friendly persuasion, touching of feeling so leading the heart to Christ and His truth.
  

3B CHARGE: imploring

• Imploring is the Greek participle marturomenoi, which is usually translated “testifying”, or “witnessing”; is related to the word martyr because so many faithful witnesses died for their boldness.

We are summoned to witness and warn and admonish to the fact that if they did not follow the course laid out for them, they, as disobedient children would receive from a father, could expect to receive spiritual discipline from the apostle.

A DAY WITH CHARITY WAS GREAT

I was at the desk today, and Charity said, "are you going to move the tables today?" And without thinking I said, "Yes." What was I thinking? So within minutes I went down stairs and begin to take the kitchen table out and going to replace with the table in the dinning room. Then Charity wanted to take the love seat out of the bedroom and put in the new sitting room, which was the old dinning room, which was the TV room. So the work began. What a morning. Charity said, "I am glad that you listen to the Pastor's message on Sunday." I had to remember what I had taught. Am I responsible to listen to what I preach?

Then later we went to Chillicothe for dinner at Red Lobster. Then to J.C. Penny's where I bought two shirts. Then to Sam's to buy contact lens. A great 80 mile round trip and time with Charity and back home in three hours.

NOW WHO DO YOU THINK THIS LOVELY LITTLE GRANDDAUGHTER IS

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PREACHING AND THE LISTENERS?

• Remember that happy listeners may mean sermon failure. Our goal is not to make listeners happy with us. Our goal is to faithfully present, explain and apply the Bible text to their lives. What if the text convicts, or prods, or pokes, or makes downright uncomfortable? What if it shines a light in a dark place in their life and they don’t like what they see? What if their dissatisfaction toward you and your preaching is a very positive sign of the word getting through? Be careful not to misapply this, but sometimes knowing that listeners were offended by your preaching may be the best feedback that you are doing your job well. Preaching is not about presenting yourself for a popularity contest (even if some churches make it feel like that!)

MY LOVELY SISTER FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS

MY SISTER ELLEN HAS A BIRTHDAY ON FRIDAY

Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA

Theses two girls didn't win Miss USA, they didn't pose for girlie sideshow, or magazines, but they glorifed the Lord in their life. Christians are not to be in girlie sideshows.

The Girlie Sideshow: God, Satan, and Miss USA in Sin City

Carrie Prejean, 21, may have lost the Miss USA crown to Kristen Dalton, but God was guiding her throughout that fateful girlie show April 19 in Sin City, when she was put to the question by Perez Hilton over gay marriage. So said Carrie yesterday on James Dobson's Focus on the Family radio show (http://www.focusonthefamily.com/).

I am sure the Devil is not at all disappointed that Miss Carrie is a "Chrisitan", and that she is against gay marriage. If a Christian can pose for girlie magazines, and dress as she does, that is okay christianity to the devil.

"I felt as though Satan was trying to tempt me in asking me this question," said Carrie, who spoke out against gay marriage. "And then God was in my head and in my heart, saying, 'Do not compromise this. You need to stand up for me.' And I knew . . . that it wasn't about winning. It was about being true to my convictions."

Now of course when the statement of Carrie was said, you can be sure the media is going to use it in the negative. Of course they in their natural minds will have no idea what she was talking about. Even on Fox Shepherd Smith was clueless.

Miss USA is worldly, and in my opinion is totally sinful. Well, it appeal to the flesh, and eyes for sure. For heaven sake's I remember saying, "I don't think your daughter should be in the cheerleaders half time group." I got in a lot of trouble over that statement. I just do not believe we should be half dressed in public and dance like we are come on. Sex sells. The nature of man like to see women's flesh.

Of course to many this practice is harmless. And I am sure we can over come our youthful behaviour.

• Satan is not fearful of external conformity to rule. Not even to the external conformity of the rule of Christ--provided there is no cross.
  
• Satan does not mind family values--as long as what you ultimately value is the family.

Russell Moore's excellent talk, "The Devil Votes Christian Values: Why We’re Tempted to be Glorified Satanists Rather than Crucified Followers.

• Satan does not mind social justice--as long as you see justice as most importantly social.

• Satan does not tremble at a Christian worldview. He will let you have a Christian worldview as long as your ultimate goal is viewing the world.

If he can just bypass the cross--and get to the kingdom apart from the cross--then he will have everything that he wants.

• Pastor: Satan doesn't mind if you preach on the decrees of God with fervor and passion every single week--provided that you do not ever preach the gospel of the cross.
• Homeschooling Mom: Satan does not mind if you teach your children all the books of the Bible and all the Ten Commandments and all of the catechism--provided you do not teach them the gospel of a bloody cross.. . .

Satan will let you\ get what it is that you want, no matter what it is--sanctity of marriage, environmental protection, orphan care, all of these good and wonderful things--he will allow you to gain those things provided you do not preach and proclaim and live through the power of a cross that cancels his power of condemnation.

He so fears the gospel of a Christ crucified and raised from the dead that he is willing to surrender his entire empire just to appease the threat of it.

Here Russell Moore tells us The Devil Votes Christian Values: Why We’re Tempted to be Glorified Satanists Rather than Crucified Followers.

The Devil likes or is willing to go along with Christian values as long as we do not bring in the Cross and the Resurrection.