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I am the Pastor/Teacher of Rivers of Joy Baptist Church in Minford, Ohio since August 2008.  I am married to Charity since June 14, 1969.  I have four grown children.   Having served in the local church for over forty years as Pastor/Teacher, Asso., Youth Pastor, Minister of Education, Building Upkeep, Camp Director, Sunday School Teacher, etc. Also I have worked in the public place for as many years as I have preached. Charity and her sister are co owner of Union Mills Conf. (Bakery) in West Portsmouth Ohio

Romans 8 18 The Glory of God As Motive in Suffering Pt 2

The Glory of God as Motive in Trials and Suffering Pt 2


Romans 8:18-23
Charles e Whisnant, Pastor/Teacher, Student of  Scripture, May 27, 2012

From Suffering to Glory

18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. 23 Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. 

1A     FOR
Since “and if children, then heirs—heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, if indeed we suffer with Him, that we may also be glorified together”
2A     I CONSIDER 3049 
Definition  Logizomai
1.     to reckon, count, compute, calculate, count over
a.      to take into account, to make an account of
3A  THAT THE SUFFERINGS: 3804  pathema
1.     that which one suffers or has suffered
a.      externally, a suffering, misfortune, calamity, evil, affliction
Here the suffering has to do with our faith in Christ, and Christ in us Who the world hates, and we suffer that we might be conformed to his image.

  1. 1.      2 Corinthians 4:7-12
  1. 2.      2 Corinthians 4:16-18
  1. 3.      I Peter 4:12-13
  1. 4.      Hebrews 12:11
  1. 5.      Revelation 2:10
  1. 6.      Hebrews 5:8
  1. 7.      James 1:2-4
  1. 8.      Hebrews 5:7-8
  1. 9.      Hebrews 12:14
  1. 10.   Revelation 2:10
  1. 11.   I Peter 1:6-7

The Process of how to temper steel:
To what purpose do we suffer? 
1.      Galatians 6:8 
2.      Romans 5:1-5  
  2 Corinthians 1:3-7 
4.      Acts 16:25-34 
5.      Romans 8:28-29 
6.      Romans 8:17-18

Suffering is ultimately the result of sin, from which will not be delivered until our Lord returns.
Every instance of suffering in our lives is not necessarily the direct result of our sin.
God has purposes for our suffering that man not be known to us in this life, but only in eternity
When viewed in the light of eternity our suffering seems bearable
Suffering may draw us near to God, while success and easy may do the opposite
When God uses suffering for his glory and our God He turns the curses into the cure.
No one has ever suffered more, than God’s son, in bringing about the only means of our salvation

So Paul here is contemplating the future privileges of the believer, and leads him to think of the contrast this makes with the present state of being.  Paul is showing that suffering is the path we tread as we move from blessing to glory.  Now Paul could also be taking about the present age in which we lived, rather than the suffering that is the direct result of persecution.  In this present world too, we are not going to be free from trouble because we live in a imperfect world. 
5A     ARE NOT WORTHY 514 axios
1.    weighing, having weight, having the weight of another thing of like value, worth as much
2.    befitting, congruous, corresponding to a thing
3.    of one who has merited anything worthy
a.    both in a good and a bad sense 

6A     (TO BE COMPARED WITH) THE GLORY or With Glory 1391
Colossians 3:4; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-12; Titus 2:12-13; 1 Peter 1:13; 4:13; 5:1; 1 John 3:2
  1. opinion, judgment, view
  2. opinion, estimate, whether good or bad concerning someone