Wednesday, February 13, 2008

ATTRIBUTES OF A BIBLICAL CHURCH

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Are you tired of churches trying so hard to "entertain the lost" in their worship services that they’re forgetting to "feed the sheep?" Are you tired of churches whose agendas and traditions trump the Word of God?



Maybe you’re looking for a church that is striving to be what God told us to be, and that is “The Church of the Living God, the Pillar and Ground of the Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15). If the latter describes you, then this Baptist Church might just be what you’re looking for!



"Wherever we see the Word of God purely preached and heard, there a church of God exists, even if it swarms with many faults."- John Calvin

  1. The Bible is inerrant and infallible: "All Scripture is breathed out by God" 2 Timothy 3:16 That is the Bible is true 100%. God can be known! Truth can be known.
  2. The Bible is the guide for all faith and practice. "and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16-17.
  3. God has called each Christian to share the Bible and God's teachings (evangelize) "God therefore and made disciples....Matthew 28:19-20. Every Christian is called to share with others the Gospel with others.
  4. Jesus Christ is God in human flesh. "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1
  5. All people are eternally lost; salvation is by faith alone, by Jesus Christ alone, by God's grace alone. Ephesians 2:8-9
  6. The glory of God is the motive of the church ministry. I Corinthians 10:31

HERE IS A PRACTICAL APPLICATION TO WHAT I BELIEVE WOULD BE A BIBICAL CHURCH'S DESIRE. A focus on people.

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When God speaks through song, sermon or prayer we want us to stop……and pray, repent and seek reconciliation to God and others. We want people sitting and praying with one another after a service or crying together in joy or pain to be a standard picture of how much we care for one another. We want to pray for the sick, doubting, confused, depressed or tired. We desperately need to provide avenues for people to partake of the graces of God, not just hear about them. People hear about the compassion of Jesus every week, but how many experience it through the ministry of the local church? People hear that God longs to connect to them and teach them but how many hear from God through godly counsel? It is our job as a local church to see this happen and to build a team of experienced, caring people to care for the family of God.

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I believe this kind of desire for a church fellowship would cause members to share the gospel with others and invite them to come to their church.

Tuesday, February 12, 2008

HAVE YOU WONDERED WHY MEMBERS DO NOT INVITE OTHER PEOPLE TO ATTEND THEIR CHURCH? pt 2




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Of course this is not true in some churches, but in many churches members may go for years and never invite another person to come with them to visit their church..

Why do some churches have a difficult time seeing visitors come, and if they do come, they don't say very long?


There is a sample of some responses to this problem:
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A survey of responses to this questions were:



  1. Its pretty simple. If people love being there then they will invite others to share that experience. If they are only there because they feel the have to be there even though they hate being there then it makes no sense at all to invite others.


  2. maybe it’s to hun drum and do not want to bore other people, or no one wants to invite anyone to a troubled church, or they are just plain lazy, if the works of god is going on in a church you could not keep people away. there would be standing room only. hey no power no people, if it is just a form of godliness but they are denying the power there of , what do you really expect. if a church is full you can believe the works of god is going on or they are making a lot of people feel good about how they live,


  3. For starters, I generally won’t invite someone if I know they’re already attending another church; the main exception would be if I know they have a particular need that isn’t being addressed there and is likely to be (better) addressed at a different church.
  4. If I’m going to invite someone to church, I want to be sure that is the right "next step" for them; I don’t want to give the impression that the church will meet their needs, but rather that it is a relationship with God that is ultimately needed. Relationships with His people are vitally important, but secondary nonetheless.
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  5. Final point: we should never be afraid to invite someone to a church other than ours. My church may not be the best fit for Joe, but if he needs to plug in somewhere, I want to be able to refer him to another church that will be a better fit. That means I need to do some homework about other churches in the area.
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  6. Part of this is of course laziness, or church irrelevance. But let me question the analogy of the concert a little bit. Whether or not outsiders are invited to ‘church’ is a function of what we think the Sunday service is. If it’s primarily an ‘event’, then yes, properly orchestrated, it should cause members to invite others.
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  7. But if it is primarily a gathering of believers, the fact that non-believers aren’t systematically invited may be a sign of health. We don’t invite nonbelievers to take communion, because it presupposes the appropriate response to God’s invitation to become a part of his people has already been taken (viz. baptism).
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  8. It’s of course possible that ‘church’ is a little bit of both (event AND gathering of believers), but lack of clarity on this point will mean regular attenders will be wary of inviting outsiders. I also want to suggest that if church services are taken to be the gathering of believers, then ‘outreach’ needs to happen in a different manner. I’ll let you imagine just what that might look like……
    ashamed would be the biggest issue!!
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  9. I agree with you. Not to be too cynical, but I think churches that lack excellence in their services tend to make excuses more than adjustments. Too often when something is called less than great, the accusation is attacked rather than heard and examined.
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  10. I don’t think that every critique needs to be taken to heart, but if it is coming from an involved, invested, and committed individual, than it needs to be prodded for more detail. If more churches did this, there would be a better dialogue on how to be more effective and visitor friendly at our services, and more effective at making an impact spiritually when people are there.
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  11. I will probably get some grief for this comment, but one of the things that often makes it difficult to invite friends to church is the quality of music that is presented…… for me, bad music is embarrassing is all……
    more often than not, the bad music comes as a result of a worship team (aka "a worship band") trying to present music that is beyond its level of expertise…
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  13. if i, as a regular attendee, feel "on edge" or nervous because i am just not sure what sounds will emanate from the singers or instrumentalists who are leading me, i just have second thoughts before i would subject my unchurched friends to the same… "special music" can be even worse, but we don’t have to go there just now……
    that being said, having myself been involved in leading worship and presenting music, without intending to, i may have become overly critical or overly analytical… i recognize that (including myself) every worshiper brings his/her own attitude to the service, and that attitude affects how the worshiper feels about the experience……
    additionally, i would say that about 50-60 % of worshipers don’t even notice "bad music", so for them, it is a non-issue…… all in all, it seems to me that worship music "style"" is less important to many participants than the "quality"… (what i mean by that is that although i prefer modern or contemporary worship music, i personally would choose old hymns "done well", over contemporary music "done mediocrely")…
    if worship teams and bands would stick to what they are able to do well, i personally would find it easier to invite unchurched friends to the service……
  14. The Lord has many ways in which He can be worshipped, but it really starts with God, working through us, to express Himself in us.


Monday, February 11, 2008




Have You Wondered Why Your People Do Not Invite Other People To Attend Your Church?
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Let me ask this question: How do people see your church? The one on the left or one on the right? Are members more likely to invite people to the church on the left or one on the right?
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"Why do the members attending your church not invite other people to come to the worship and preaching time? They come. They’re faithful. They give and support, but they don’t invite other people. If people in your church are not inviting people, they are not inviting people on purpose. We think they are scared, but they are not. They know very well how to invite people to great stuff. They do it all the time..."
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You take an average person who goes to a great concert; or a great movie, it’s very easy for that person to invite someone to the next one. He went and had a great experience. He was moved, he was touched, it was a great value, and it was worth the time and the effort. He knows that his friend is going to benefit from it and he’s going to thank him afterward. So he invites him enthusiastically. They make the date, they plan, they spend the money, they anticipate. We’re really good at inviting people to places that we love going and knowing there’s a benefit at the end.
So is there a Harmony.com scientific data that would help us as Church leaders to understand the process of getting members of our church to get engage in the Great Commission?
  • So at the end of the day, maybe what you should be more focused on is helping your people love to come and to understand the benefit that others may have who come after them. Maybe people aren’t inviting people to your church because they aren’t that enthusiastic about it either.

Sunday, February 10, 2008












HAPPY BIRTHDAY ERIC AND BECKY (I)
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We were in the cold winter, deep in snow in the town of Wooster, the state of Ohio. Charity and I were in the Wooster Baptist Temple, where I was the Youth Pastor of the Teenagers, and Charity taught the Jr. High Class. We were temporarty living in a home provided by a church member John and Marie Williams while they were Arizona. The snow was coming down, and the driveway was snow covered about a foot or two. Eric was ready to be born and Charity was ready to deliver and I was ready to be a dad. Okay where is the car, oh get the keys, and how about the snow, can we get to the hospital? We arrived at the hospital. I was told that this might be a long process, so I had brought six books to read. Who told me that? Charity was taken to the labor room, and I read books. Six hours later Eric was born at 6:06 a.m. Now that was fast. folks. Eric weighed in at 9lbs. 8ozs!
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We came home from the hospital, and we stayed with Richard and Elizabeth Clark, until Charity's mother came from West Porstmouth Ohio. Mrs. Clark told me that children grow up so fast. That night I could not sleep. I just kept looking at Eric, afraid I would miss something. Bob and Lenora Temple were glad to be grandparents for the first time. They arrived on Sunday afternoon, and Eric was the star attraction.



In March when Eric was a month old, we took a trip to Danville, Virginia, to visit my mother Pauline Whisnant. This trip was one to remember for a life time. It snowed most of the way from northern Ohio and across the West Virginia Turnpike. Our car had old slick tires; only the Lord's care got us there. Mom was so glad to see her first grandchild!



In April 1971 I resigned the church and we moved to West Portsmouth, and by June 1971 I was pastor of Madison Missionary Baptist Church in Minford, Ohio. I remember taking Eric to church in his little baby seat and put him on the front pew while I preached on Wednesday night and Charity was working for her aunt Betty Gullett.



Then four years later we moved from Minford to West Portsmouth, where we were Youth Pastor at Victory Baptist Church for a year. Then we moved to Grapevine Texas. I was Minister of Christian Education in the First Baptist Church of Haltom City, in Fort Worth, Texas, I was also working full time for Mesco Metal Building, and full time at AlCOA, Dallas Airport. Charity was staying home taking care of Eric, and was on pregnancy leave from Goodyear Atomic Corporation.



Now it's February 10, 1976, the weather was clear and nice. And Charity was ready to deliver our second child, Becky Faith. She was born at 8:44 a.m. I can't remember where I was in the hospital, but I didn't take any books this time. 6lbs. and 9 ozs. She was so little, but her birth was such a big event that it got her Grandma Lenora Temple on an airplane for the first time!


Becky was six months old when we moved to Perrysville Ohio, where I was camp director for Pleasant Valley Ranch and Mansfield Baptist Temple. Becky's first home was in the camp's multi-purpose building. We lived in the rooms upstairs over the camp's kitchen. And the Camp was on three hundred acres of beautful land.
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We were snowed in for weeks as one of the biggest snow blizzards in history came in 1977. We had finally moved into a house, and the natural gas line froze and the weather was old. I can remember Charity and I , Becky and Eric getting in bed, we were going to wait the storm out. Right! No heat, wind blowing, it was below freezing! We were rescued by a family, and for about a week we lived with them. What a wonderful life.



Then we moved to Mansfied, Ohio, I was teaching the College and Career Class and working with Adam Geiss putting up aluminum siding. Eric started kindgarden and first grade in Mansfied at Temple Christian School.



Then we moved to Connervislle, Indiana, in 1978 where I was the Youth Pastor at Calvary Baptist Church. Eric was in the second grade. Then we moved to Cedar Lake, Indiana near Hammond, Indiana, and Eric was in the third grade in Hammond Christian Schools. I attended the Hyles-Anderson College.



Finally we moved to Altoona, Kansas, in March 1980 where we stayed sixteen plus years as pastor/Teacher of the First Baptist Church. Eric finished school, and Becky was able to start and finish school there in Altoona. Eric went to Florida and graduated from Penacola Christian College.



That's some of the early history of Eric and Becky Whisnant.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY ERIC AND BECKY!!!
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DON'T SHAKE, DON'T BE AFRAID, DON'T WAVER, STAND FAST IN THE LORD
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If you were to see my office at home, you would see over one hundred three ring notebooks that I have filled with articles and notes from my studies of theology, Bible, church growth, sermons, church ministry (children, young adults, Christian education, etc) leadership, church fathers, church history, and down loading books,and sermons by Piper, Edwards, MacArthur, Spurgeon, and Pink, and Puritan writers, and many articles downloaded from many websites and bloggers. And this has happened over the last few years. (2003-07)
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My father in law said my problem is, I study so much and have no outlet to give it out to others, and the others don't want to hear what I have to say. Bob just might have a point.
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Nevertheless......I refuse to go to bed and sleep. I refuse to stay the same. I refuse to quit learning. I refuse to stay down for the count of ten. I refuse to believe the Lord has called back his calling upon my life at sixty.
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Now don't think I think I am a Jeremiah, the prophet, "Lord how long do I have to preach and no one is listening." Most people have no idea what in the world I am talking about here, and really that is good. You don't want to let people know you're discouraged, and hurt, and disappointed. We are proud. We want people to have the impression: everything is just fine.
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You go into denial that anything is wrong and before long you are just about dead spiritually.
And for this very reason is why you hear preachers drop off the face of the ministry. his is the reason why men will just quit the ministry, drop out of church, and go into the public life, where there is a much better chance to succeed.
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What is the verse, 2 Corinthians 13:4 for He was crucified through weakness, yet He liveth through the power of God. For we also are weak in Him, but we shall live with Him through the power of God toward you. I believe this verse speaks to all believers,” that we are armed with the irresistible power of the risen, glorified Christ”(MacArthur’s study notes) And it’s in this power of Christ that we move and think and move
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And as I blogged this last week: And this is very personal, this verse, 2 Thess. 2:16 says, "May our Lord Jesus Christ Himself, and our God and Father, who has loved us and given us everlasting comfort and good hope by grace, comfort your hearts and establish you in every good word and work."
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  • Don’t shake.
  • Don’t be afraid.
  • Don’t waver.
  • Stand fast.
  • Hang on to the truth, the traditions you were taught --
  • Hold onto everything ever taught.
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GROW BY EXPERIENCE, GROW IN YOUR UNDERSTANDING BY EACH DAY'S EVENTS
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Charles E. Whisnant

Saturday, February 09, 2008




McCHURCH FRANCHISING CONGREGATIONS






"Just like a Chick-fil-A, or McDonalds my church is a 'franchise,' and I proudly serve as the local owner/operator." said Eddie Johnson
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Just thinking before I go to Lexington, Kentucky
to visit Eric and Leslie, Chad and Heather
and Kyle
and attend Ashland Ave Baptist Church in their new building.
Charles
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FAITH IN THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN
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Thus far in the presidential campaign we have heard more about religion and politics than ever before. An entire CNN program, Mitt Romney’s Texas speech, individual interviews, campaign-trail confessions, and more . . . and more. But has anything new come from it? Are we more enlightened now about religion and the qualifications of the candidates to serve as president?

FAITH AND THE PRESIDENCEY

Over the last 40-50 years, competition over the right to define America’s cultural foundations has intensified. When John F. Kennedy gave his now famous Texas speech, he and most Americans were agreed on the simple formula of "separation of church and state." Once Kennedy assured voters that the Roman Catholic Church would not interfere in his presidential decisions, he was off and running.

Today, however, after Vietnam, the Civil Rights Movement, Roe v Wade, Jimmy Carter’s evangelicalism, the rise of the Religious Right, the decline of the Protestant mainline, the explosion of home schooling, the faith-based initiative, and more, voters are much more concerned than in 1960 about where the candidates are coming from culturally, morally, and religiously. A pledge of allegiance to separation is not enough.
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While Romney’s speech restated much of Kennedy’s argument, it tried to do more by drawing on a theme from those American Founders who emphasized religion’’s political importance. A self-governing people, Washington and Adams believed, must be a moral people and morality depends on religion. Their appeal to religion was largely for political and public moral purposes not for ecclesiastical reasons. Thus, for all of Romney’s confession of personal faith in Jesus Christ as "the Son of God and the Savior of mankind," what was central in his December 6 speech was this: "It is important to recognize that while differences in theology exist between the churches in America, we share a common creed of moral convictions.. . . Perhaps the most important question to ask a person of faith who seeks a political office, is this: does he share these American values: the equality of human kind, the obligation to serve one another, and a steadfast commitment to liberty?"
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The religious affirmation in Romney’s speech is quite thin, the values claim general, and the political relevance indirect and largely unhelpful. Yet the gist of Romney’s presentation is essentially the same as that of the other candidates. Reference to one’s faith shows voters that one values religion. And the most important value of one’s religion—whatever it is—is the support it provides for American values. Even Mike Huckabee, who wants to amend the Constitution to comply with God’s moral standards on unborn life and marriage, and who says that his faith does not merely "influence my decisions, it drives them," concludes his web-site statement in this vague way: "Our nation was birthed in a spirit of faith—not a prescriptive one telling us whether to believe, but one acknowledging that a providence pervades our world."
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Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and John Edwards have also told their stories of personal Christian faith, and each story leads in the same direction—to faith in America and its promise. In that regard, the concluding words of John McCain’s New Hampshire victory speech are the most fulsome of all in civil-religious fervor: "For me that greater cause [to which to give oneself] has always been my country, which I have served imperfectly for many years, but have loved without any reservation every day of my life. . . America is our cause—yesterday, today, and tomorrow. Her greatness is our hope; her strength is our protection; her ideals our greatest treasure; her prosperity the promise we keep to our children; her goodness the hope of mankind."
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There is an added ingredient, to be sure, in Huckabee’s approach—a kind of postmodern identity politics. He is direct in urging Evangelicals to vote for him because he is one of them. He is not a Mormon; he is neither black nor female; he is neither a businessman nor a lawyer. He is a born-again believer in Jesus Christ.
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What does all of this confessing and posturing tell us? Eventually—rather quickly, in fact—we and the candidates must get back to the war and the economy, to health care and immigration, to climate change and education. Yet not much has been achieved by means of the religious rhetoric to illuminate these political realities because the candidates have offered only vintage, if intensified, American moral rhetoric when talking about faith. Separation of church and state is boilerplate. To express personal faith as a mode of character-witness and as a motivation for service is no longer unusual. To locate one’s faith within America’s civil religion is obligatory. But after that it is a quick and disconnected flight to most public policy issues.
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What we have, then, in the campaign rhetoric is civil religion as ground for moral values and morality as ground for self-government. Yet as we know, the policy proposals offered by the candidates are as diverse as what liberal Democrats, conservative Republicans, and those in the middle have always offered. The common values of liberty, equality, and service open onto the familiar disputes about how much (or how little) government the self-governing people want.
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What is missing from the candidates’ professions of Christian (and Mormon) faith is a philosophy of the political community that clarifies the responsibilities of government in relation to the responsibilities that belong to all the other institutions, organizations, and relationships of human society. What we need is a Christian public philosophy that connects directly to office holding, policy formulation, and governing. Americanism and the liberal political tradition do not generate such a philosophy, and that is why we have what we have.
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James W. Skillen, PresidentCenter for Public Justice

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